avansc wrote:i think its kinda strange that in a 2 and a half hour documentary the biggest issues you could see what that they showed a clip of him saying there are 58 states and the precrime, maybe 5 min of the entire thing.
Not my biggest issues with it, but clear examples of tossing in completely irrelevant clips for seemingly no better reason than slander and scare tactics. A documentary completely grounded in reality and proof would not need to resort to such things, and it immediately makes me lose respect for the creator(s) of the film. It just shows that the first thing they were willing to do with this film is try and run a smear campaign with no facts - it's intellectually dishonest from the first minute, and that does say a lot.
avansc wrote:the video was really not only attacking him. it was attacking most presidents of late. as well as the economic structures and failures we have had. now im not claiming to buy into this. i have always been skeptical that something like the NWO/Illuminate, however, they do raise some interesting points about the structure of govertment.
It is definitely focusing on him, and even tossing in a few other recent presidents doesn't help the romanticized past point. It just feels to me like we have less things to hate about our government, so we blow up the things that we hate to be even worse than they are. Does the government make every decision possible in the best interest of the people? Of course not, they're greedy humans, just like everyone else - but are they working to make the entire world an enslavement camp? Unlikely, but this film seems to think so. I respect calling out the bad decisions of the government, and if that's all this was, I'd applaud their efforts. It's what they do with this information that I have a problem with.
avansc wrote:anyways. for the most part i dont think there is this one governing body that wants to oppress us all. but what i do think is that man caused global warming is a scam of giant proportions that will take millions of jobs out of america, because of cap and trade. id be surprised if you cant see that.
Again, I'm not arguing in the least against the fact that the government does fucked up things/is dishonest/etc. The real things that are mentioned in the film are problems, I get that. It's the connection between that and an evil world empire that I just can't stand. Which is why I said, make a film about real issues with evidence, great. But the conjecture that permeates this film about enslaving the entire world is just ridiculous.
avansc wrote:edit: oh and btw.. they explicitly said not to take their word.. but to do your own research.. i think you were being unfair there.. they were advocating the message that people need to make up their own mind. they were mearly there to show you the possibility, the responsibility lies with you to do the research.
Well, it certainly does
seem to give that message, doesn't it? But you're still left with not trusting the government/politicians/the media/corporations... good luck with finding a source for all this research they encourage. And it wasn't just a friendly "hey, this might be happening, beware" message, it was a scare-tactic "tomorrow you will be in chains unless you rise up and rebel against the new world government" message.
That also brings me to another point, where exactly did these people get their top secret information? They go on about how the two political parties act like they're enemies, but then make deals "behind closed doors". Tell me, how did a nuclear engineer find his way behind those doors? Like I said, facts, evidence - go for it, make that documentary to expose the things that are wrong with the government/coporations/etc. Just leave out the conjecture about how life as we know it is directly and immediately threatened, and your every right will be stripped away when Obama picks up his pitchfork and reveals his horns and pointy tail. The line between controversial and crazy is pure conjecture, and this film crossed that line and kept running.
