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Re: Windows 8 Just put Apple out of business

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Windows 8 looks really ugly and weird. I don't really like the ugly-looking squares and stuff, it just looks plain stupid, but that's my personal opinion.
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Re: Windows 8 Just put Apple out of business

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Pornomag wrote:Windows 8 looks really ugly and weird. I don't really like the ugly-looking squares and stuff, it just looks plain stupid, but that's my personal opinion.
That's just what it looks like with the windows menu open. You can make it go away with the press of a key and find a pretty normal looking desktop underneath.
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Re: Windows 8 Just put Apple out of business

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Pornomag wrote:Windows 8 looks really ugly and weird. I don't really like the ugly-looking squares and stuff, it just looks plain stupid, but that's my personal opinion.
This isn't even beta yet. It's very likely to change long before it ships, it's just a displayable and useable interface. That includes the desktop UI.
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Pornomag wrote:Windows 8 looks really ugly and weird. I don't really like the ugly-looking squares and stuff, it just looks plain stupid, but that's my personal opinion.
:)
I was thinking what to say about this, but then i just lold.

Windows has always been the choice for business. Apple is more about fancy and glitter, which is why iPod and iPhone are such a success. You spit some extra buck so you can carry them around like a sign of your social status.
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cypher1554R wrote:
Pornomag wrote:Windows 8 looks really ugly and weird. I don't really like the ugly-looking squares and stuff, it just looks plain stupid, but that's my personal opinion.
:)
I was thinking what to say about this, but then i just lold.

Windows has always been the choice for business. Apple is more about fancy and glitter, which is why iPod and iPhone are such a success. You spit some extra buck so you can carry them around like a sign of your social status.
Never have such truer words been spoken. You literally just took the words right out of my wouth. ;) Having the next big Apple product is like buying a rolex.
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Windows 8 looks really ugly and weird. I don't really like the ugly-looking squares and stuff, it just looks plain stupid, but that's my personal opinion.
You're forgetting that this is not even a beta product yet. The product still has a long time to go before it'll be released, and the UI may end up being changed ALOT before then.
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Re: Windows 8 Just put Apple out of business

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cypher1554R wrote:
Pornomag wrote:Windows 8 looks really ugly and weird. I don't really like the ugly-looking squares and stuff, it just looks plain stupid, but that's my personal opinion.
:)
I was thinking what to say about this, but then i just lold.

Windows has always been the choice for business. Apple is more about fancy and glitter, which is why iPod and iPhone are such a success. You spit some extra buck so you can carry them around like a sign of your social status.
How is the Apple and the iPhone involved with how ugly the metro UI is?
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LeonBlade wrote:
cypher1554R wrote:
Pornomag wrote:Windows 8 looks really ugly and weird. I don't really like the ugly-looking squares and stuff, it just looks plain stupid, but that's my personal opinion.
:)
I was thinking what to say about this, but then i just lold.

Windows has always been the choice for business. Apple is more about fancy and glitter, which is why iPod and iPhone are such a success. You spit some extra buck so you can carry them around like a sign of your social status.
How is the Apple and the iPhone involved with how ugly the metro UI is?
I don't believe anyone implied that. He was just making an observation about Apple generally being the one you'd expect to attempt a crazy new UI.
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Re: Windows 8 Just DIDN'T put Apple out of business

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Alright bitches.
I have been working with it for 10 days now, and I'm writing a little summary of what I think about this baby.
First of all, most of the time you work with the normal UI you know if you have used windows seven - don't worry. Task Manager, Windows Explorer, all that stuff is there and is even enhanced. Control Panel does have a metro version (alongside its normal version accessible through explorer) but it's, well, a bit homosexual. regedit, calc, notepad and all the other workhorses are still there - just type e.g. "notepad" while in the start menu. It's full-screen, and you get used to that after a while. It's useless for a computer but with stubby fingers and a tablet you might be grateful it's designed this broad.
Visual Studio 2011 preinstall was a total joke, no C++ Win32 or even C# .net applications possible, only the metro style things. Installing 2010 over it worked though. Other than the start menu there isn't too much new to discover unfortunately. In [my] everyday use it performs more or less like windows 7, since all its programs run on windows 8 as well, as promised by microsoft. And yes, the rounded edges for windows, buttons etc. are all gone. Windows' titles are now centered. I didn't even notice that until I opened up visual basic's design view for testing purposes.
If you have two screens, new improvements are taskbars on all screens and separate settings for the main monitor and the others. If you have a shuffled background slideshow on your desktop, the background images will shuffle on each monitor individually. There isn't much to criticise about that part of the OS' GUI. Metro style (yes, it is a kind of style) though is a matter of taste. "Sobre gustos y colores nada opinan los doctores," or in normal words, I'm not going to comment on it since it's up to you and your taste. :)
Apple's not going to lose all of its painfully maintained market in my opinion. My euphoria for Windows 8 has faded out; it's there, it's ready to be worked with, and it's going to be a nice improved experience.

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Since yesterday explorer.exe has been screwing around quite a lot. Every time it's not working (e.g. the navigation pane within explorer won't work, or you can't create a new folder etc.) you have to kill it with tskmgr, wait until it's actually removed from the process list (its entry turns grey for about half a minute first), and then you restart the task and literally hope for that it'll be working this time. I've had up to 4 restarts to cure all the shit that wasn't working, sometimes right after restarting the process the taskbar wouldnt even show up properly. This happened only twice for me, but it's disturbing since it really starts not working seemingly at a random time. It's obviously not a bugless OS, hopefully they'll fix it.

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Simply had to insert this... cute question :lol:
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Damn, someone needs to release a win tablet with a mid range mobile GPU/integrated combo. I cannot find one for the life of me but will be all over any that come out.
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Sheesh.. this reminds me when I BETA tested Windows 98 or heck even as recent as Windows 7. In fact Windows 7 had soooooooooooooooo many glitches when it was in BETA that people were saying it would never get anywhere. Look at it now. Its in first place. XP is number 2. Windows 7 has been pushing ahead. :)

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

So I can only imagine what Windows 8 will do once it gets to Service Pack 1.

My whole take on this, is wait it out and we will see. Will it be like Windows Millennium ( a total bomb like Vista was ) or Windows 7 / XP which are the two MOST USED operating Systems ever. Even windows 98 SE did not have the turn out that XP had. MAC has never lead in the battle of the OSes. ( I have looked for evidence that it had, so far I have not found any to prove it. And if you have to go back to the 1970's just so you can troll me, get real. )
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Re: Windows 8 Just put Apple out of business

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dandymcgee wrote:I don't believe anyone implied that. He was just making an observation about Apple generally being the one you'd expect to attempt a crazy new UI.
I don't know about that, usually Apple likes to keep clean and beautiful UI choices. The metro look is too hipster/tablet looking.
Also, I love the topic title change :lol:

And I'm sorry... but... What?!
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Are you serious man? Does the UI REALLY look like this? This is absolute shit! Windows 3 looked better than this shit, I honestly hope this isn't what they're going for with UI... I know it's a developer preview, but I would think they would have some UI in there :lol:

I hope that Windows 8 doesn't turn out to just be Windows 7 with some Metro UI over it.
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LeonBlade wrote:
dandymcgee wrote:I don't believe anyone implied that. He was just making an observation about Apple generally being the one you'd expect to attempt a crazy new UI.
I don't know about that, usually Apple likes to keep clean and beautiful UI choices. The metro look is too hipster/tablet looking.
Also, I love the topic title change :lol:

And I'm sorry... but... What?!
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Are you serious man? Does the UI REALLY look like this? This is absolute shit! Windows 3 looked better than this shit, I honestly hope this isn't what they're going for with UI... I know it's a developer preview, but I would think they would have some UI in there :lol:

I hope that Windows 8 doesn't turn out to just be Windows 7 with some Metro UI over it.
Thats what the Windows 2000 theme looks like on windows 8.
The original theme looks rather badass...
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LeonBlade wrote: And I'm sorry... but... What?!
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Are you serious man? Does the UI REALLY look like this? This is absolute shit! Windows 3 looked better than this shit, I honestly hope this isn't what they're going for with UI... I know it's a developer preview, but I would think they would have some UI in there :lol:

I hope that Windows 8 doesn't turn out to just be Windows 7 with some Metro UI over it.
Windows beta releases (which this isn't EVEN beta!) are often lacking in the UI department. This isn't even beta. I wouldn't be surprised if they take alot of input from developers about the UI this time round.

As for win7 with metro UI over it. Well, most bussinesses have no reason to upgrade from Win7. It was never built to compete direclty with win7, but to wage war in the growing tablet market. Windows 8 probably won't be too different then windows 7.

Are OSX releases really THAT different from each other?
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Live-Dimension wrote:Windows beta releases (which this isn't EVEN beta!) are often lacking in the UI department. This isn't even beta. I wouldn't be surprised if they take alot of input from developers about the UI this time round.

As for win7 with metro UI over it. Well, most bussinesses have no reason to upgrade from Win7. It was never built to compete direclty with win7, but to wage war in the growing tablet market. Windows 8 probably won't be too different then windows 7.

Are OSX releases really THAT different from each other?
Yes, BugInTheSYS stated it was the Windows 2000 version of the theme.

And why market the new operating system Windows 8 if it's not really an improvement but more of a port to tablets? It seems like genius marketing in terms of fooling people into buying it, but a stupid market decision when it comes to why the fuck do you trick your consumers? They could have just said Windows 7 Tablet Edition or Windows 7 for Tablets, something like that. If there's not going to be any actual improvements no hardcore Windows user will bother upgrading. So then it's like "oh yeah there's Windows 7 and then Windows 9, yeah don't worry about Windows 8 it doesn't count". It just seems like a stupid thing to do in my opinion, but I'm sure Microsoft will rake in tons of money from it's overly large price and pointless multiple versions.

And yes, OS X versions were really that different from each other. Tiger added 150 new features, Leopard added 300 new features, Snow Leopard meant to be more of a performance update added a significant amount of performance increments and of course making the switch to all Intel and ditching PPC, and of course Lion introduces lots of new features along with bringing some of the more popular iPad features to the desktop in a good way while also introducing things like the Mac AppStore and tons of other features. So again, yes they do...

Like I stated before, I'd like more stock support for popular file types like PDF, IMG, different audio and video codecs, shit like that. It's time to get with the times here, Windows... pretty much every other operating system now has this kind of support stock
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