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Post by **Falco Girgis** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:23 pm

This may sound stupid, but are human beings restricted to traveling slower than the speed of light for some reason? I know you'd be killed from it in many ways, not to mention we'd never get that sort of technology.

It sounds like there is no way even with the technology to exceed the speed of light. If I remember correctly, don't quarks and subatomic particles travel faster than the speed of light? Doesn't that mean that post-light speeds are possible (not survivable). This may sound stupid, but I'm just curious.

Post by **JS Lemming** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:23 am

Remember solar sails. Ya point em away from the sun and they just go faster and faster... welp, that didn't prove anything.

Don Pwnious · Post by **Don Pwnious** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:52 pm

I reason i that our bodies and mind haven't envolved enough so that our bodies could be able to the spped of light

Don Pwnious · Post by **Don Pwnious** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:58 pm

Where do you get all this info.?

And Why?

Post by **MarauderIIC** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:00 pm

You're restricted from ever reaching the speed of light because the equations show that the mass of an object increases the faster it goes. As the speed approaches the speed of light, the mass approaches infinity, therefore, an infinite amount of energy is required to accelerate an infinite amount of mass to the speed of light.

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E = Kinetic Energy
M = mass of an object at rest
C = the speed of light
V = velocity of an object

E = MC^2 (      1                 )
         ( __________________ - 1 )
         ( sqrt(1 - (V^2/C^2)     )

Note that as velocity approaches the speed of light, the denominator approaches zero, which would make the equation undefined. Therefore, graphed, there is a vertical asymptote at c. In calculus terms, "The limit as velocity approaches the speed of light of E = MC^2[ 1 / (sqrt [1- (v^2/c^2) ] ) -1 ] is infinity." In other words, the amount of energy, E required to increase the velocity, V, of an object of mass M to C increases without bound.

http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/212_fall200 ... gymass.htm

Edit: This is Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity. According to calculus teacher, he wrote a book on it that's understandable with only algebra and maybe some trig.

Post by **MarauderIIC** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:01 pm

Google. I've heard of the stuff I look up already, usually - I just look for stuff to refresh me. And to inform others :)

Don Pwnious · Post by **Don Pwnious** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:03 pm

Cool

Don't you get bored doing it?

Post by **MarauderIIC** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:05 pm

It only takes me like, two minutes.

Post by **Falco Girgis** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:27 pm

Allright, I totally understand now. Thank you.

Orgodemirk · Post by **Orgodemirk** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:02 am

if we were to travel the speed of light it would cause a great "G" force thing and kill us.

Don Pwnious · Post by **Don Pwnious** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:31 pm

oh yeh
but i think SS already knew that and is done with this topic

Post by **MarauderIIC** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:46 pm

Even if you had anti-gravity, it's still impossible to accelerate to the speed of light. Because if velocity == the speed of light, the denominator of that equation is zero. Therefore, the velocity cannot equal the speed of light, at least with the mathematics we use :)

Don Pwnious · Post by **Don Pwnious** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:57 pm

lol Thank you for explaining it clearly

Post by **Falco Girgis** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:02 pm

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vmrob · Post by **vmrob** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:40 pm

i think there is a way to travel faster than the speed of light.

Have any of you read any books by steven hawkings?

he goes on to describe the relationship between the speed of light and gravity.

let's just say that in our solar system a cosmic inpossiblity were to happen such as the sun suddenly disapearing. we would notice about 7(?) minutes later because suddenly everthing would go black.

but the question is: when would we stop being pulled by the sun's gravatational pull?

according to everything nothing could go faster than the speed of light but is gravity instant?

he hypothosized that gravity travels at the speed of light and that we would stop being pulled by it as soon as the light from the sun stopped.

i don't know if there is a way to prove that but hey whatever.

another question: why is it that electrons have so little mass but travel nearly the speed of light?

that's kinda weird.