Hydrogen powered vehicles.

Post by **JS Lemming** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:18 pm

You knew this topic was going to pop up sooner or later. So where do you stand? I say heck yes. True, that in order for it to really replace oil the hydrogen would have to be produced by non fossil fuel plants, but the prototype for the new nuclear power plants show that they will produce Hydrogen on the side (Hydrogen requires a lot of heat to produce, perfect for nuclear power house yo).

I say bust out the hydrogen and let oil rot.

DJ Yoshi · Post by **DJ Yoshi** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:36 pm

It will never work.

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/generaltec ... 69,00.html

But everyone wants it to anyways. Because people are idiots.

Marx Chaotix · Post by **Marx Chaotix** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:05 pm

How come it won't? :?

DJ Yoshi · Post by **DJ Yoshi** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:12 pm

Read the link, dumbass.

Post by **JS Lemming** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:34 pm

I'm a big fan of popular science and that article is surely true. As a matter of fact, I get all my hydrogen facts from it, including the idea of using a nuclear power plant to produce the hydrogen. They must of thought better on the subject later. But, I didn't say that we could do this tommorrow, the time range is 20 to 30 years (I plan to cut that down). I hate it when people say crap is impossible. This world is going to suck if people like you "DJ Yoshi" populate the globe. You have no idea if new technology could easily produce hydrogen, you are clueless.

DJ Yoshi · Post by **DJ Yoshi** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:53 pm

I'm clueless? Jesus christ, listen to yourself kid. You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. Creating hydrogen isn't the only problem we're talking about. Storing it in mass quantities, such that you wouldn't have to refuel every 50 or so miles, storing it efficiently, making sure there's no leaks in the pumps (something you have to do with gasses whereas liquids you don't have to worry about) manufacturing the cars CHEAPLY etc are all things you have to worry about.

Not to mention, you know when the last powerplant was made in the US? How few of them there are in the US? The last one was made in the 70s and there's less than 50 in the US. Do you want to know why? Everyone's afraid of fission and its waste (though they're stupid for their fears, it doesn't change facts.)

Post by **JS Lemming** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:18 pm

That's why you would use liquid hydrogen, and don'y give me crap about it boiling over. That can be solved with a little time.

I'm not going to argue with you. You just can't have a peaceful conversation. Ruin it everytime.

Post by **Falco Girgis** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:20 pm

Uhhh... JSL, liquid hydrogen would be so insanely cold that it can't exist without millions of dollars worth of cooling equipment and some sort of special containment chamber...

Post by **JS Lemming** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:31 pm

They all ready built a car that runs on liquid hydrogen (watched an entire History Channel speacial on the hydrogen cars), just like a normal hydrogen car with only ONE drawback. If it isn't run everyday the tank will boil away. But that is why I said that a little time may fix such problems. I'm being optimistic if you haven't noticed.

Post by **Falco Girgis** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:35 pm

Oh... I see. I've been pwnt.

*slowly backs away to Dreamcast forum where I'm smarter...* XD

DJ Yoshi · Post by **DJ Yoshi** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:36 pm

Yeah, well prove to me they've made one, AND that it can be mass marketed and I'll concede that one point. The only reason I can't have a peaceful conversation is because you're a dumbass and think you MUST be right. Also, who's to say it'll be solved with time? R&D doesn't happen over night, it happens over a large span of time (10-20 years) and who's to say it's even POSSIBLE to make it so it doesn't boil over cheaply.

Not to mention, you still haven't addressed how exactly we're going to get all this hydrogen. We'd need literally millions of gallons of liquid hydrogen per day, and this would NOT be cheap or easy to make (considering no powerplants are going to be made soon that magically make it or whatever). Please, do explain how we'll do this.

Post by **JS Lemming** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:43 pm

Uhh. dude, if I knew all that we'd already be using hydrogen. And where did I say I was right and you were wrong? You are the one who said it was impossible, you don't know that so why say it? I didn't say my side was going to happen no matter what, but I'm confident that technology will expand and get better over time, just like it's done since the dawn of time.

DJ Yoshi · Post by **DJ Yoshi** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:49 pm

Well of course technology will, but some technology can never be made. We'll never travel the speed of light, we'll never go through a black hole and live to tell about it, we'll never reach the edge of the universe. These things are just givens. We'll probably never have hydrogen cars either, or if we do, it's going to be a system very unique that has to be set up over a LONG period of time. We're never going to stop using oil. And yes, you did imply that Hydrogen was going to happen and it was the wave of the future. You didn't out and out say it, but you implied it. I think you should become more educated before you make inferences like that.

Marx Chaotix · Post by **Marx Chaotix** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:54 pm

I think people will soon realize that we are running out of oil and they will use hydrogen powered cars. Then they will many years later make water powered cars.

Post by **JS Lemming** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:03 pm

Wow.. you are comparing a dinky hyrdrogen car to going the speed of light or black hole travel. Those are so different that it's not even close to being funny. And yes, I do believe hydrogen will be the new wave of energy transportation, unless batery technology gets a huge breakthrough. But untill then, quit asuming I'm a retarded little kid.